{"id":8739,"date":"2017-12-01T07:14:50","date_gmt":"2017-12-01T07:14:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/?p=8739"},"modified":"2017-12-01T07:14:50","modified_gmt":"2017-12-01T07:14:50","slug":"tel-aviv-participants-discuss-controversial-issues-historical-memory-jews-ukrainians","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/tel-aviv-participants-discuss-controversial-issues-historical-memory-jews-ukrainians\/","title":{"rendered":"Tel Aviv participants discuss controversial issues in the historical memory of Jews and Ukrainians"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p>These sessions were presented in Russian on 14-16 September 2017 at a seminar in Tel Aviv for Israeli youth entitled \u201cJews and Ukrainians: Controversial Issues of Historical Memory.\u201d<\/p>\n<h2>A round table discussion on the possibility of a common Ukrainian\/Jewish historical memory and the problem of mutual stereotypes<\/h2>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/5Q_sWgKWN1s?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Is there a historical or moral responsibility by people today for the crimes committed in the past? How many memories can there be? A common memory versus different memories by different nations. How can you teach the tragic pages of history to children? How do you choose heroes? Mutual stereotypes of Ukrainians and Jews and painful questions in their common history.<\/p>\n<p>00:00 \u2013 01:50<br \/>\nAn introduction to the four speakers.<\/p>\n<p>01:50 \u2013 02:50<br \/>\nShimon Briman: a provocative question to begin the discussion.<\/p>\n<p>02:50 \u2013 03:30<br \/>\nVyacheslav Feldman, Israeli Friends of Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>03:30 \u2013 09:20<br \/>\nOlexiy Zheleznov, Vasyl Rasevych, and Nicolas Dreyer on German responsibility for the Holocaust.<\/p>\n<p>09:20 \u2013 11:20<br \/>\nAnna Nevzlin (Museum of Diaspora, Tel Aviv): a question about Holocaust teaching in Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>11:20 \u2013 13:00<br \/>\nTaras Nazaruk on the \"polyphony of memories.\"<\/p>\n<p>13:00 \u2013 18:00<br \/>\nYevhen Sokolovsky (Israel) and Vasyl Rasevych: Jewish stereotypes about Ukrainians and Holocaust remembrance in modern Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>18:00 \u2013 27:00<br \/>\nShimon Briman: about the term \"Zhyd\" in Ukrainian. A discussion about why the Israeli Knesset refuses to recognize the Holodomor.<\/p>\n<p>27:00 \u2013 34:00<br \/>\nA discussion on Ukrainian\/Jewish radicals in history.<\/p>\n<p>34:00 \u2013 35:50<br \/>\nNicolas Dreyer on building a new national identity after the collapse of the USSR.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h2>Feedback: Summing up and personal impressions of participants of a seminar in Tel-Aviv \u201cJews and Ukrainians: controversial issues of historical memory\u201d<\/h2>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"860\" height=\"484\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/FjWgXg7pv7c?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" gesture=\"media\" allow=\"encrypted-media\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Exchange of impressions about the seminar: personal opinions on results of lectures and discussions. Participants of a seminar tell what has changed in their perception of the Ukrainian-Jewish history. How it is possible to build the Ukrainian-Jewish dialogue in the future and whether there are prospects of such fair conversation on tragic pages of history of both people?<\/p>\n<p>00:00 \u2013 03:40<br \/>\nOlexiy Zheleznov: \"Need to learn more on OUN-UPA\/Jews topic\"; importance of truth about Ukraine in Israel.<\/p>\n<p>03:40 \u2013 04:50<br \/>\nOlga Brodsky: \"I like to save both parts of my identity in Israel \u2013 Ukrainian and Jewish elements\".<\/p>\n<p>04:50 \u2013 07:20<br \/>\nAnna Nevzlin: Importance of \"micro-history\" and family researches in Ukrainian\/Jewish relations.<\/p>\n<p>07:20 \u2013 09:40<br \/>\nIsraeli participant: \"It\u2019s important to listen an alternative point of view on Ukrainian-Jewish topic\".<\/p>\n<p>09:40 \u2013 11:50<br \/>\nEvhen Sokolovsky: \"Revolution of Dignity as example of new Ukrainian heroism\".<\/p>\n<p>11:50 \u2013 13:00<br \/>\nReligious participant: \"Ukrainian topic is important for us in Israel\".<\/p>\n<p>13:00 \u2013 15:20<br \/>\nAndrey (Israeli): \"We need to develop such seminar to bigger event\".<\/p>\n<p>15:20 \u2013 21:40<br \/>\nTwo Israeli women: \"We need more information about Ukraine for building bridges of mutual understanding\".<\/p>\n<p>21:40 \u2013 28:40<br \/>\nPolyakovsky family (4 persons from Dnipro and Donbas): \"Connections with Ukraine are very important for us. Project of Jewish heritage in Dnipro; we cannot return to Donbas\".<\/p>\n<p>28:40 \u2013 30:40<br \/>\nTaras Nazaruk (Lviv): \"Importance of micro-history and personal stories for Ukrainian-Jewish understanding\".<\/p>\n<p>30:40 \u2013 31:50<br \/>\nUkrainian participant from Ternopil: \"I feel a shame for those people (who killed Jews)\".<\/p>\n<p>31:50 \u2013 34:10<br \/>\nNicolas Dreyer: History on family\/personal level.<\/p>\n<p>34:10 \u2013 35:30<br \/>\nLeon Girshovich (Israel): Conceptual questions on Ukraine.<\/p>\n<p>35:30 \u2013 37:55<br \/>\nShimon Briman: \"Both people \u2013 Ukrainians and Jews, - need for \"therapy\" of truth \u2013 against our old pains\".<\/p>\n<p>37:55 \u2013 44:00<br \/>\nVasyl Rasevych: \"I feel very strong and warm reaction from Israeli participants; we need to continue such seminars \u2013 in Israel and in Ukraine\".<\/p>\n<p>44:00 \u2013 45:26<br \/>\nTaras Nazaruk about \"Israeli Friends of Ukraine\".<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><em>Prepared by Shimon Briman<br \/>\nEdited by Peter Bejger<\/em><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5><\/h5>\n<h5><em>NOTE: The UJE does not necessarily endorse opinions expressed in articles and other materials published on its website and social media pages. Such materials are posted to promote discussion related to Ukrainian-Jewish interactions and relations. The website and social media pages will be places of information that reflect varied viewpoints.<\/em><\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>These sessions were presented in Russian on 14-16 September 2017 at a seminar in Tel Aviv for Israeli youth entitled \u201cJews and Ukrainians: Controversial Issues of Historical Memory.\u201d A round table discussion on the possibility...<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":8742,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[124,42,134,63],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8739","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sponsored-projects","category-diverse-voices","category-other-programs","category-israeli-friends-of-ukraine","primary-category-42","primary-category-diverse-voices"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8739","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8739"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8739\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8744,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8739\/revisions\/8744"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/8742"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8739"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8739"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8739"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}