{"id":9862,"date":"2018-05-14T18:31:02","date_gmt":"2018-05-14T18:31:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/?p=9862"},"modified":"2018-05-14T18:41:43","modified_gmt":"2018-05-14T18:41:43","slug":"exploring-the-legacy-of-the-holocaust-in-ukraine","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/exploring-the-legacy-of-the-holocaust-in-ukraine\/","title":{"rendered":"Exploring the legacy of the Holocaust in Ukraine"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"fb-root\"><\/div>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-9864\" src=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"703\" height=\"442\" srcset=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature.jpg 703w, https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature-500x314.jpg 500w, https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature-700x440.jpg 700w, https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/East-west-feature-350x220.jpg 350w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 703px) 100vw, 703px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Guilt, justice, and family ties.<\/p>\n<p>These dramatic themes are recalled today due to the recent publication of the Ukrainian-language edition of <em>East-West Street<\/em> by Phillip Sands, a book presented by the author at the 2017 Lviv Book Forum.<\/p>\n<p>The Ukrainian publication of the critically acclaimed book by Sands recalls a panel discussion held on the very theme of guilt, justice, and family ties back in 2014 at the Center for Urban History of East Central Europe in Lviv.<\/p>\n<p>Panel moderator Sofia Dyak noted back then that we have many accounts of the Holocaust and other atrocities, but very few of the perpetrators.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9863\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9863\" style=\"width: 400px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/800px-PhilippeSands.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-9863 size-thumbnail\" src=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/800px-PhilippeSands-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9863\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Phillip Sands. Author, East West Street. Photo: Otterbox 2015.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Sands was joined at the panel by his two of the subjects of his book. There was Nicklas Frank, the son of Hans Frank, a Nazi war criminal who was convicted of war crimes at Nuremburg and executed in 1945. He was joined by Horst von Wachter, the son of Otto von Wachter, who was the Nazi governor of Galicia and died in hiding in Rome in 1949.<\/p>\n<p>Sands, Frank, and von Wachter all share ties with Lviv, or, as it was known then, Lemberg. Sands\u2019s maternal grandfather was born there before the First World War. Niklas Frank\u2019s father Hans Frank delivered a notorious speech in the great hall of Lviv University in 1942 lauding in a grotesquely humorous manner the extermination of the area\u2019s Jews. Horst\u2019s father Otto von Wachter was instrumental in creating the SS Galicia Division.<\/p>\n<p>As Sands has pointed out in his work, Niklas Frank hates his father. Horst von Wachter loves his, arguing Otto von Wachter was a decent man trapped in an impossible situation. Horst asserts his father spoke up against Nazi plans to make occupied Lviv a completely German city by purging it of all non-Germans.<\/p>\n<p>Sands calls his book an investigation of how a son deals with the legacy of his father. As Sands said, \u201cThe usual custom is that one honors his father. But equally there is also a custom that if one\u2019s father has killed people, one should have a degree of recognition of what one\u2019s father has done.\u201d Sands wanted to explore this relationship between responsibility and love. \u201cFrankly,\u201d said Sands, \u201cI think of Horst and Niklas as victims as well.<\/p>\n<p>Sands was surprised by the lack of questions from the Lviv audience to the panel. He was of the opinion this might because of what he called, \u201cthe elephant in the room,\u201d which was Ukrainian involvement in the atrocities of the war. He said he felt very much at home in Lviv after numerous visits, but stressed, \u201cnowhere does one see an engagement with what happened. What is your reaction? If you\u2019re engaged, why? Or why not?<\/p>\n<p>A young woman in the audience had one answer. She said, \u201cMost of our relatives, our grandparents, our great-grandparents, were killed. There is nobody to ask about these events.\u201d She went on to say that in her opinion Ukrainian \u201cdiscomfort is not because of engagement or non-engagement but because we are a country in a war [with Russia].\u201d<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_9865\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-9865\" style=\"width: 300px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/Sofia-Dyak.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-9865\" src=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/Sofia-Dyak.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-9865\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Sofia Dyak<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>The moderator Dyak stepped up in place of the audience silence to offer her take. \u201cHow many things can you ask and how many things have relevance in later generations? How many things can you transfer? But we are living here now and can make our decisions about what we think is good or bad, what is relevant and what questions we can ask or we don\u2019t ask. We also think we can ask later, and there won\u2019t be anybody to answer these questions. For difficult questions, there is no good time to ask, because they are difficult. You basically have to be brave and start asking them. Asking privately. Even more importantly, publicly.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dyak went on to recount, \u201cOn the territory of Ukraine there are so many experiences of the war, and it\u2019s very hard to shape one narrative. There are difficult questions about the auxiliary police. Difficult questions about the way the Red Army liberated Ukraine. Questions about what happened in the whole of Ukraine, very largely a territory of victims, but also questions of how we treat heroes.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Dyak argued that Ukraine\u2019s challenge is \u201cAbout having and finding a space\u2014intellectual and even more emotional\u2014about having these different stories together, but them actually not fitting each other. So how do we make room for all of that? Try to know more and more and not hide.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Sands reflected on the situation in Galicia during the war and what may have driven people to commit massive violence. \u201cThe anger must have been very deep,\u201d he said. \u201cIs it about power? Economics? Religion? Tribalism? He pointed out one commonality he found in the Holocaust to contemporary atrocities to be found in Rwanda, Libya, the Congo, or elsewhere. And this was the capacity of one group to treat another as \u2018the other.\u2019 As if they don\u2019t share a common element of humanity.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>With the recent publication of the Ukrainian-language edition of the Sands book, perhaps new readers will seek more engagement with the past and ask questions. Sands reminded the audience that it was always necessary to ask questions. As he noted, \u201cwe might actually learn something. And improve the human condition.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>This has been Ukrainian Jewish Heritage on Nash Holos Ukrainian Roots Radio. From San Francisco, I\u2019m Peter Bejger. Until next time, shalom!<\/p>\n<p><em>Written and narrated by Peter Bejger.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Listen to the program <a href=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/media\/UJH-2017-1027_Sands_book_panel.mp3\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><em>Ukrainian Jewish Heritage is brought to you by the Ukrainian Jewish Encounter (UJE), a privately funded multinational organization whose goal is to promote mutual understanding between Ukrainians and Jews<\/em><em>. Transcripts and audio files of this and earlier broadcasts of Ukrainian Jewish Heritage are available at the <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/ukrainianjewishencounter.org\/en\/category\/sponsored-projects\/audio-visual-media\/nash-holos\/\"><em>UJE website<\/em><\/a><em> and the <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nashholos.com\/?s=ukrainian+jewish+heritage\"><em>Nash Holos website.<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<h5><em>NOTE: UJE does not necessarily endorse opinions expressed in articles and other materials published on its website and social media pages. Such materials are posted to promote discussion related to Ukrainian-Jewish interactions and relations. The website and social media pages will be places of information that reflect varied viewpoints.<\/em><\/h5>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Guilt, justice, and family ties. 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